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10 sierpnia 2005Wind-Up Records Turns Down Wrens' 100K Offer
Ryan Schreiber and Kati Llewellyn report:
Dictionary.com's definition of "wound up": "Brought to a state of great tension." Short, sweet... and appropriate. For years, indie rock statesmen the Wrens have been grappling with Wind-Up Records and its president Alan Meltzer over the rights to two albums they recorded on Meltzer's dime way back in the 1990s, when the label was known as Grass Records. Particularly since the band received a groundswell of attention and acclaim (not to mention a whole new generation of fans) upon the release of 2003's The Meadowlands, their audience has clamored for the albums-- which include their 1994 debut Silver and 1996's classic Secaucus-- to see release. Unfortunately, all bids to Wind-Up over the years for the rights to the LPs have been declined.
Last week, Cory Brown, the founder of San Francisco-based indie Absolutely Kosher which the Wrens presently record for, reached the end of his patience with Wind-Up when the multi-million dollar super-indie responsible for the success of Creed and Evanescence declined his final offer of $100,000 to purchase the albums outright. According to a press release sent by Absolutely Kosher late last week, two previous attempts to simply license the records were met with insistance from Wind-Up that an advance the label had given to the Wrens in 1996 be repaid before they would even be open to negotiating. "When it became clear that the history between Wind-Up and the Wrens was dictating that label's business decisions," the release states, "Absolutely Kosher was left with no choice but to try and buy the albums outright."
Wrens frontman Charles Bissell discussed his relationship with Meltzer by telephone last week, insisting that their negotiations with Wind-Up have very little-- if anything-- to do with money. "It's very much a personal thing. There are other bands who he's given back masters to and let out of contracts," he said, noting that Commander Venus was let out of their contract with Wind-Up upon simply asking Meltzer to come to terms with them. The same approach, however, didn't go as well for the Wrens. Apparently, complications arose almost instantly, leading the band to believe that Meltzer's refusals stem from a personal grudge that they say he still holds against them for neglecting to sign a million-dollar contract he proposed to them shortly after Secaucus' release.
Added Bissell, "It was definitely taken more personally than it should have been. Ten years ago, even if age-wise we still weren't kids, certainly career-wise we were very naive and very idealistic. We just thought it was the most awesome thing that could have ever happened. We signed to this little label, and by total luck of the draw this multi-millionare comes in and says, 'We're gonna make this happen.' But because we didn't agree with a lot of the things that [Grass was] doing... ultimately he felt, 'Hey I'm offering you a lot of money to sign,' and we didn't, so he felt like it was a personal slap in the face. It's a weird gray area, though. It's not like he's this evil ogre, but he does have this personal thing with us that isn't reflected in his other dealings with most of the other bands that have been on [the label]."
When offers to license the records were initially offered by Absolutely Kosher, Wind-Up allegedly requested $75,000 from the label, supposedly the amount they had spent promoting Secaucus, before they would even discuss the possibility. However, the band claims that figure is grotesquely exaggerated, citing that the label only sold 5,000 copies. Said Bissell, "It would have been cheaper to promote it by shipping each copy with a 50 dollar bill."
Meltzer has, as yet, been unavailable for comment regarding these concerns, but a spokesperson for Wind-Up Records commented, "Mr. Meltzer has always been a huge fan of the Wrens and congratulates both The Wrens and Absolutely Kosher Records on the remarkable success of The Meadowlands album. Wind-Up is currently considering re-releasing several titles from the Grass catalogue in the very near future, including the two Wrens albums, Secaucus and Silver. We wish the band continued success." The obvious question here is yet to be answered: If Wind-Up does decide to reissue the albums, will the band see any of those profits?
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Anakin (29 kwietnia 2009) -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pE1SXJLZWc
pank (16 lutego 2009) -
http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2009/01/26/wrens-watch-jan-26-2009-download-brand-new-wrens-song-below/
pank (28 stycznia 2009) -
demo nowego kawałka Wrens "In Turkish Waters" do ściągnięcia ze stereogum.com
PK (7 grudnia 2008) -
a wy co dziewczyny, śpicie??? "First New Wrens Song in Forever" już dostępne ze streamu: http://www.futureofmusic.org/rockthenet/
aschenputtel (27 czerwca 2008) -
http://www.nokarma.com/nokarma/details.asp?prodid=Gr21&cat=349&path=&m=The+Wrens+Secaucus
- (8 lipca 2007) -
czy to będzie dużym nietaktem jeżeli stwierdzę że Secaucus jest zajebisty. zrozumcie człowieka. mógłbym napisać ZAJEBISTY ale jeszcze nie ogarniam wszystkiego.
Jan (21 stycznia 2007) -
ten gamoń, autor tej recki, chciał najwyraźniej, by tytuł naszego wątku o reedycjach Wrens komentował stan zdrowia jego słuchuale o tym już mówiliśmy kiedyś - Secaucus jest sztandarowym przykładem albumu na którym jest ZA DUŻO do ogarnięcia i trzeba się pogodzić - każdy ma swoje limity percepcyjne, choć nie wiem czy to że my mamy wyższe jest powodem do dumy czy też zadumyjedyne co mnie dziwi w tym wszystkim to osoba Ryana, dla którego Sec jest w 20-ce lat 90s - dotąd zwykł on kontrolować oceny pod tym względem, bo serwis to w końcu jego dziecko
borys d (15 grudnia 2006) -
Faktycznie Michale, to byla profanacja. Ja przed wejściem w recenzję powiedziałem sobie: "To taki mój prywatny tekst dla PFM. Jak Secaucus nie dostanie 10.0, to ich nie ma". Wszedłem do recenzji i PFM nagle zniknęło.
tomek g (15 grudnia 2006) -
to kurwa jakiś żart jest z tą recką, rzucają 9 przy byle gówienku a tu coś takiego kurrrrrwa (btw. ten sam kolo recenzował changes)
tygrysia maska (14 grudnia 2006) -
zobaczyłem ocenę, wyszedłem
mz (14 grudnia 2006) -
co o recenzji z piczforka ? :>
dys (13 grudnia 2006) -
ale jakos nie wierze, zeby sie Wind Up pospieszyl z wydaniem "Secaucusa"
Piotrek (11 sierpnia 2005) -
greener grasses fade from where you wind up
aimarek (11 sierpnia 2005) -
sorka, nie doczytalem do konca, wiec temat tego posta troche mylacy - *moze* beda reedycje "Secaucus" i "Silver", ale i tak zespol nie bedzie miec pewnie z tego ani grosza
Piotrek (10 sierpnia 2005)